Category: My Discoveries

Jonah: I firmly believe that daily devotions are essential for every Christian. Scripture clearly shows the importance of regular engagement with God’s Word and prayer. For instance, Psalm 1:2 says, “But his delight is in the law of the Lord, and on his law he meditates day and night.” This indicates that meditation on Scripture should be a constant practice. Furthermore, Jesus Himself set the example. Mark 1:35 tells us, “Very early in the morning, while it was still dark, Jesus got up, left the house and went off to a solitary place, where he prayed.” If Jesus, the Son of God, prioritised daily communion with the Father, how much more should we?

Carl: I believe we need to look at this issue with a broader perspective. While daily devotions can be beneficial, they are not a rigid requirement for Christians. Faith is about relationship, not ritual. Consider Matthew 22:37-40, where Jesus summarises the Law: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’” This speaks to the quality of our relationship with God, not the quantity of time spent in specific practices. Also, life circumstances differ. A single parent juggling work and childcare might not have the time for structured daily devotions, but that doesn’t mean they are less faithful. Colossians 3:17 reminds us, “And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus.” Faithfulness can manifest in how we live, not just in a specific daily ritual.

Jonah: I agree that the heart of our faith is relationship, but relationships require intentionality and time. Without daily devotions, how can we expect to grow spiritually? In 2 Timothy 3:16-17, Paul writes, “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.” This passage highlights that Scripture equips us for good works. Regular, daily engagement with God’s Word ensures that we are constantly being refined and prepared for what God calls us to do.

Carl: I’m not saying we should neglect Scripture or prayer. But the key is how we integrate these into our lives. The Pharisees were meticulous about their spiritual disciplines, yet Jesus rebuked them in Matthew 23:23 for neglecting “the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness.” What matters most is living out the teachings of Christ. Someone might spend hours in daily devotions but fail to show love or kindness to their neighbor. James 1:22 reminds us to be “doers of the word, and not hearers only.” A rigid focus on daily devotions can sometimes lead to a check-the-box mentality rather than genuine spiritual growth.

Jonah: I believe the two go hand in hand. Without daily devotions, it’s easy to drift spiritually. Hebrews 4:12 describes God’s Word as “living and active, sharper than any double-edged sword.” Daily devotions keep us sharp and attuned to God’s will, helping us avoid the distractions and temptations of the world.

Carl: Let’s not underestimate the diversity of Christian spirituality. Romans 12:1 says, “Offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God—this is your true and proper worship.” Worship is not confined to a specific time or practice; it encompasses our entire lives. For some, daily devotions are a wonderful tool. For others, moments of spontaneous prayer, acts of service, or simply walking in God’s creation can be equally meaningful.

Our faith calls us to continuously seek wisdom and understanding. It’s vital for us, as Christians, to engage in these dialogues, always aiming to reflect God’s love and wisdom in our lives and the lives of those around us.

Debate: Should Christians Participate in Other Cultures’ Ceremonies?

Jonah: I believe Christians should avoid participating in other cultures’ ceremonies, especially if those ceremonies have ties to religious practices or ideologies contrary to Scripture. As it says in 2 Corinthians 6:14-15, “Do not be yoked together with unbelievers… What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols?” Engaging in such practices may lead to compromising our faith and aligning ourselves with values that contradict God’s commands.

Carl: I believe Christians can engage in other cultures’ ceremonies as a way to build relationships and foster understanding. The Apostle Paul provides a model in 1 Corinthians 9:22, where he says, “I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some.” Participation doesn’t necessarily mean endorsement; it can be an opportunity to share Christ’s love through our actions.

Jonah: But participating in ceremonies with spiritual elements could lead to syncretism—blending Christian beliefs with unbiblical practices. In Exodus 20:3-5, God is clear about not worshiping other gods or creating idols. By being involved, even passively, aren’t we at risk of appearing to condone or partake in idolatry? The Old Testament is filled with warnings against Israel mingling with pagan practices, and the same principles should apply to us today.

Carl: I understand the concern about idolatry, but not all cultural ceremonies are inherently spiritual or idolatrous. We need discernment. For instance, when Paul visited Athens in Acts 17, he engaged with their cultural and religious practices to introduce them to the “unknown God.” He didn’t shy away from their culture but used it as a bridge for the Gospel. Couldn’t participating respectfully in cultural ceremonies be a similar opportunity?

Jonah: Paul’s approach in Athens was about correcting their false beliefs, not participating in their worship. Also, in Deuteronomy 12:30-31, God warns Israel not to adopt the practices of the nations they were displacing, saying, “Be careful not to be ensnared by inquiring about their gods, saying, ‘How do these nations serve their gods? We will do the same.’” Isn’t it safer for Christians to remain set apart as a holy people, as described in 1 Peter 2:9?

Carl: Being “set apart” doesn’t mean isolating ourselves completely. Jesus Himself participated in cultural moments of His time, such as weddings (John 2:1-11). He was accused of eating with sinners and tax collectors because He valued relationship over rigid separation (Matthew 9:10-13). Could it be that our witness is strengthened, not weakened, when we engage with others in their context while remaining true to our faith?

Jonah: Jesus participating in a wedding isn’t the same as engaging in potentially idolatrous or spiritually conflicting ceremonies. His actions always pointed people to God. We are called to be in the world but not of it (John 17:14-16). If our participation could cause confusion or lead others to stumble in their faith (Romans 14:13), isn’t it better to abstain?

Carl: I agree that our actions should never cause others to stumble. However, avoiding participation altogether might send a message of judgment or rejection, which could hinder the Gospel. If we approach these ceremonies with prayer, discernment, and a heart for Christ, couldn’t we balance cultural engagement and faithful witness? After all, Jesus’ ministry was about crossing boundaries to bring people into God’s kingdom.

Jonah: I remain cautious. As Christians, we are ambassadors for Christ (2 Corinthians 5:20), and our testimony must be clear and uncompromised. While engagement is important, it should never come at the expense of our allegiance to God.

Carl: I agree that allegiance to God comes first. Yet, I believe it’s possible to engage with cultural ceremonies in a way that honours God and builds bridges. We must rely on the Holy Spirit for wisdom in each situation.

Our faith calls us to continuously seek wisdom and understanding. It’s vital for us, as Christians, to engage in these dialogues, always aiming to reflect God’s love and wisdom in our lives and the lives of those around us.

Jonah: I believe the foundation of our faith lies in the past—in what God has done for us through history, especially through Jesus Christ. The Bible is clear: the works of God in history are central to our understanding of Him. Look at Deuteronomy 6:12: “Be careful that you do not forget the Lord, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.” The Israelites were constantly told to remember their past. Shouldn’t we do the same?

Carl: While history is important, I think focusing on the future—the Kingdom of God—is more crucial for Christians today. Jesus Himself taught us to look forward. In Matthew 6:10, He tells us to pray: “Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.” Isn’t that a call to action, to focus on what’s ahead rather than just what’s behind us?

Jonah: But how can we properly anticipate the future without anchoring ourselves in the historical acts of God? The crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus are historical events that define our faith. Paul writes in 1 Corinthians 15:14: “And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith.” Our hope for the future is meaningless without these historical foundations.

Carl: I’m not saying we should forget the past, but the danger lies in being stuck there. Jesus’ ministry wasn’t just about recounting past miracles—it was about showing us how to live for the future. Look at Luke 4:18-19, where Jesus declares His mission: “to proclaim good news to the poor…to set the oppressed free, to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favour.” That’s a forward-looking vision of transformation and hope.

Jonah: True, but isn’t that mission itself built on the historical promises of God? Jesus often referred to the Law and the Prophets to validate His mission. Remember Matthew 5:17: “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.” By understanding history, we can see how God’s promises are fulfilled, which strengthens our faith in His future plans.

Carl: Yes, but focusing too much on the past can make us blind to the pressing needs of today and the potential for tomorrow. Even Paul, in Philippians 3:13-14, says: “Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus.” Doesn’t that suggest that while the past has its place, our eyes should be fixed on the future?

Jonah: The Psalms are filled with reminders to recount God’s deeds (Psalm 77:11) and to trust Him for the future (Psalm 37:4). History gives us confidence in God’s faithfulness,

Carl: I still think the Church today leans too heavily on history and doesn’t do enough to focus on shaping the future—bringing justice, mercy, and love into a broken world. James 2:17 reminds us: “Faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.” To me, that action points forward, building the Kingdom of God here and now.

Jonah: And I’d say that action is inspired by remembering what God has already done. Let’s not forsake the roots of our faith while we work toward its fruits. After all, Hebrews 13:8 reminds us: “Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.” When it comes to witnessing to non-Christians, the historical basis of our faith is non-negotiable. Christianity is unique because it’s rooted in historical events. As Paul says in 1 Corinthians 15:3-4: “For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day.” Without these historical truths, what are we even sharing?

Carl: I think many non-Christians are less interested in what happened 2,000 years ago and more in what faith can mean for their lives today and tomorrow. Jesus talked about the future transformation of the world through the Kingdom of God. In Matthew 5:14-16, He says: “You are the light of the world…let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.” Isn’t it more effective to show people how faith impacts the future—both theirs and the world’s?

Jonah: But without the historical foundation, the future you’re talking about has no credibility. Christianity isn’t just an abstract philosophy or moral system. It’s based on what God has already done. For instance, Acts 17:31 says: “For He has set a day when He will judge the world with justice by the man He has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising Him from the dead.” The resurrection is a historical event that validates our message.

Carl: Just citing historical events doesn’t always resonate with people who don’t already accept the Bible as authoritative. Many people are looking for something tangible and forward-looking—something that offers hope and purpose. Take Revelation 21:4, for example: “He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain.” That vision of a better future can be incredibly compelling for someone seeking hope.

Jonah: I’m not denying the power of hope, but how do you offer hope without grounding it in something real and proven? Jesus Himself pointed people to the history of God’s faithfulness. In John 5:39, He says: “These are the very Scriptures that testify about me.” The historical fulfilment of prophecy and the reliability of Scripture give people a reason to trust in the promises of the future.

Carl: That’s true, but we have to meet people where they are. Many non-Christians don’t start with a belief in the Bible or a concern for ancient history. They’re often more interested in how faith speaks to their struggles today and offers hope for tomorrow. When we live out the love and justice Jesus taught, we demonstrate the reality of the Gospel in ways they can see and experience. James 2:18 says: “Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds.”

Jonah: But living out our faith isn’t enough by itself. Non-Christians might see our good works and think we’re just kind people or part of a social movement. We need to explicitly connect our actions to the historical truth of Jesus. Romans 10:14 reminds us: “How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard?” We need to tell them what God has done, not just show it.

Carl: And we also need to tell them why it matters for their future. Look at Jesus’ encounter with the Samaritan woman in John 4. He doesn’t start with history—He starts by addressing her thirst for something more. Then He points to the living water that leads to eternal life. He connects her current need to the promise of a transformed future.

Jonah: But notice, Jesus also reveals His identity as the Messiah in that conversation—a historical claim! The past and the future are both crucial in witnessing. The resurrection is what makes eternal life possible, and eternal life is what gives the resurrection its significance.

Carl: Maybe it’s not about choosing one over the other but about tailoring the message. For some, starting with history builds credibility; for others, starting with the future offers hope. As Paul says in 1 Corinthians 9:22: “I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some.”

Our faith calls us to continuously seek wisdom and understanding. It’s vital for us, as Christians, to engage in these dialogues, always aiming to reflect God’s love and wisdom in our lives and the lives of those around us.

Jonah: I’ve noticed a concerning trend among some Christians—justifying piracy, like downloading movies or software illegally. I believe this is outright theft and a violation of God’s law. The Bible says in Exodus 20:15, “You shall not steal.” How can you reconcile piracy with God’s clear commandment?

Carl: I think it’s more nuanced. The commandment in Exodus is about tangible theft—taking something that deprives someone else of their possession. Piracy doesn’t involve physically taking something away. It’s more about accessing a copy. It’s worth asking whether the current system of media distribution is just or fair, especially when many people can’t afford access.

Jonah: That sounds like justifying sin to me. Piracy undermines the work of creators who deserve to be compensated for their labor. 1 Timothy 5:18 says, “The labourer deserves his wages.” By pirating, you’re essentially denying them their rightful earnings, which is unjust.

Carl: I agree that labourers deserve their wages, but we also need to consider the larger context. Many media corporations exploit both consumers and creators, charging exorbitant prices while underpaying their workers. Isaiah 10:1-2 condemns those who enact oppressive decrees and deprive the poor of their rights. If the system itself is exploitative, isn’t there a moral case for challenging it?

Jonah: Even if the system is flawed, breaking the law is not the solution. Christians are called to obey earthly authorities. Romans 13:1-2 says, “Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God.” Piracy is illegal, and engaging in it is defying that God-ordained order.

Carl: True, but there are times when obeying earthly laws isn’t the ultimate priority. For example, when human laws conflict with God’s justice, we follow God. Think about the early apostles in Acts 5:29, who said, “We must obey God rather than men.” If the system limits access to knowledge and culture, might it be a Christian duty to resist?

Jonah: That’s a dangerous path. We’re called to act with integrity and trust God to address injustices. Two wrongs don’t make a right. Instead of pirating, Christians should advocate for fairer systems and support creators in ways that honour God.

Carl: I agree that integrity matters, Jonah, but sometimes Christians are called to act pragmatically to ensure the well-being of others. If someone is using pirated media to educate themselves or enrich their faith, isn’t that a better outcome than remaining in ignorance because they can’t afford it? Jesus Himself said in Mark 2:27, “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.” Couldn’t the same principle apply to strict rules about intellectual property?

Jonah: That verse is about God’s law being made for our benefit, not an excuse to break it when convenient. Piracy isn’t about survival or faith—it’s about convenience and self-justification. Christians should be above reproach. 1 Peter 2:12 says to “live such good lives among the pagans that… they may see your good deeds and glorify God.”

Carl: But if we focus too much on legalism, we risk ignoring the broader mission of love and justice. Jesus criticised the Pharisees for prioritizing rules over mercy. As Micah 6:8 reminds us, what God requires is to “act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.” Shouldn’t we focus on the spirit of justice and accessibility rather than rigid adherence to man-made systems?

Jonah: Mercy and justice are essential, but they can’t justify sin. If Christians start compromising on something as clear as theft, where does it end? Instead of pirating, we should encourage sharing, lending, and free resources that align with God’s law.

Carl: That’s a fair point. Perhaps the solution is finding creative ways to make media more accessible without violating laws. But I still think it’s worth reexamining how Christians engage with unjust systems. After all, Jesus overturned tables in the temple when the system was corrupt. Maybe it’s time for us to challenge the status quo too.

Our faith calls us to continuously seek wisdom and understanding. It’s vital for us, as Christians, to engage in these dialogues, always aiming to reflect God’s love and wisdom in our lives and the lives of those around us.

Jonah: The concept of the Trinity is a cornerstone of Christian faith. It reflects the unity and diversity of God’s nature as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Scripture clearly supports this doctrine. For instance, in Matthew 28:19, Jesus commands, “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptising them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.” Notice the singular “name” used to describe the three distinct persons. This demonstrates their unity as one God.

Carl: I believe the Bible doesn’t explicitly teach the Trinity as a formal doctrine. The word “Trinity” isn’t even in the Bible. The passage you referenced, Matthew 28:19, could be more about highlighting the roles of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in the process of salvation rather than proving a metaphysical unity. For example, the early church didn’t seem to interpret this as proof of the Trinity but as a liturgical formula for baptism.

Jonah: But the Bible often shows the divine nature of Jesus and the Holy Spirit alongside God the Father. For instance, in John 1:1, it says, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” Later in John 1:14, we learn that “the Word became flesh and dwelt among us,” clearly identifying Jesus as God. Similarly, the Holy Spirit is called God in Acts 5:3-4, where lying to the Holy Spirit is equated to lying to God. Doesn’t this point to a triune God?

Carl: I agree that those verses highlight the divinity of Jesus and the Holy Spirit, but they don’t necessarily prove the concept of the Trinity as understood in later creeds like the Nicene Creed. John 1:1 could be interpreted as showing a unique relationship between Jesus (the Word) and God rather than asserting they are the same being. Early Jewish Christians likely saw Jesus as the divine agent of God’s will, not as God Himself. As for the Holy Spirit, it is often described as God’s presence or power in action, not as a separate person.

Jonah: The unity of the three persons is also evident in 2 Corinthians 13:14, where Paul writes, “The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.” This blessing brings together all three persons in a way that suggests equality and partnership. How do you interpret that?

Carl: That verse does mention the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, but it might not imply a metaphysical unity. It could simply reflect their different roles in the lives of believers: God’s love, Jesus’ grace, and the Spirit’s fellowship. The Trinity as a doctrine was formalised much later, shaped by philosophical debates rather than direct Biblical statements.

Jonah: Jesus Himself claimed unity with the Father in John 10:30, “I and the Father are one.” And in John 14:16-17, He promises the Holy Spirit as another advocate, distinct yet working in complete harmony with the Father and Son. Doesn’t this support the idea of the Trinity?

Carl: When Jesus said, “I and the Father are one,” the context suggests unity of purpose, not essence. The Jewish leaders understood it as blasphemy because they saw Jesus claiming a unique relationship with God, but that doesn’t necessarily confirm the Trinity. As for the Holy Spirit in John 14:16-17, it’s described as “the Spirit of truth,” which could be understood as God’s active presence rather than a distinct person within a triune Godhead.

Jonah: I see where you’re coming from, but I believe the cumulative evidence in Scripture supports the Trinity. The Bible shows that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit share divine attributes and work together in creation, redemption, and sanctification. Even if the term “Trinity” isn’t in Scripture, the concept is unmistakably there.

Carl: I think it’s important to acknowledge that the Trinity is a later theological development, influenced by Greek philosophical concepts. While Scripture highlights the relationship and roles of the Father, Son, and Spirit, it leaves room for diverse interpretations. For me, faith isn’t about rigid doctrines but about living out the love and grace that Jesus taught.

Our faith calls us to continuously seek wisdom and understanding. It’s vital for us, as Christians, to engage in these dialogues, always aiming to reflect God’s love and wisdom in our lives and the lives of those around us.

Jonah: The Bible is very clear that sex is a sacred act reserved exclusively for marriage. Genesis 2:24 says, “That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.” This verse not only establishes marriage as the context for sex but also emphasises its profound spiritual and emotional unity. Christians should uphold this biblical principle without compromise.

Carl: I think it’s essential to read Scripture with an understanding of its historical context. Yes, Genesis 2:24 establishes the union of a couple, but what about the principles of love and mutual consent that transcend cultural norms? In 1 Corinthians 13, Paul reminds us that “love is patient, love is kind…” Shouldn’t this guide Christian relationships, including sex, rather than a rigid adherence to ancient marital customs?

Jonah: While love is indeed central, love does not override God’s moral laws. Hebrews 13:4 says, “Marriage should be honoured by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.” This verse explicitly ties sexual purity to marriage. Allowing sex outside of marriage leads to moral chaos and undermines the sanctity of the institution God established.

Carl: I believe they must evolve with our understanding of human relationships. For example, Jesus emphasised the spirit of the law over the letter. In Matthew 22:37-40, Jesus summarised the law as loving God and loving your neighbour. A loving, consensual sexual relationship—marriage or not—can reflect those values if it is grounded in mutual respect and care.

Jonah: That interpretation risks making personal feelings the measure of morality rather than God’s Word. Scripture is consistent in its condemnation of sexual immorality, including fornication. 1 Thessalonians 4:3-5 says, “It is God’s will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; that each of you should learn to control your own body in a way that is holy and honourable.” This clearly calls for self-control and adherence to God’s standards, not cultural reinterpretation.

Carl: But what is “sexual immorality” really? Many of those definitions were tied to ancient patriarchal structures. For example, polygamy was acceptable in the Old Testament (Genesis 29:30), but most Christians today reject it. If our understanding of marriage has evolved, why can’t our view of sex evolve too? I believe God cares more about the heart behind our actions than rigid conformity to rules.

Jonah: You’re conflating cultural practices with God’s unchanging moral principles. Jesus Himself reaffirmed the importance of Genesis 2:24 in Matthew 19:4-6 when He said, ”‘Haven’t you read,’ he replied, ‘that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.’” This shows that marriage remains God’s design for sexual union.

Carl: I don’t disagree that Jesus upheld marriage as significant, but He also broke cultural taboos to show love and grace. Think of His interaction with the Samaritan woman in John 4:17-18, where He acknowledges her relationships but does not condemn her. Shouldn’t we, as Christians, focus on extending grace and understanding rather than imposing rigid standards on others?

Jonah: Grace does not nullify the call to holiness. Jesus told the woman caught in adultery in John 8:11, “Go now and leave your life of sin.” He offered grace but also called for repentance. Christians should hold themselves to the standard of purity God sets, not conform to the shifting morals of society.

Carl: And I believe repentance means aligning our actions with love, not simply rules. Romans 13:10 says, “Love does no harm to a neighbour. Therefore love is the fulfilment of the law.” If a relationship is genuinely loving, respectful, and consensual, then it reflects God’s love. The legalistic boundaries you’re advocating risk alienating people rather than drawing them closer to Christ.

Jonah: Love is central, but true love is grounded in obedience to God’s Word. As 1 John 5:3 says, “In fact, this is love for God: to keep his commands. And his commands are not burdensome.” We cannot separate love for God from obedience to His design for sex and marriage.

Carl: Obedience is important, Jonah, but so is interpretation. God’s Word is alive and active (Hebrews 4:12), which means it can speak to us in new ways as we grow in understanding. Christians should approach sex, and sex acts, not with fear or shame but with a commitment to love, grace, and authenticity.

Jonah: Now, when it comes to sex acts, Christians must be especially cautious. Even within marriage, sex must honour God. Acts that are degrading, unnatural, or driven by lust rather than love fall into sin. Romans 1:26-27 condemns unnatural relations, and that principle should guide how married couples express intimacy. Sex is not about indulgence but about glorifying God through mutual love and procreation.

Carl: I think you’re taking a narrow view of what it means to honour God through sex. Sex is a gift meant to be enjoyed by both partners, not just for procreation. Song of Solomon is full of passionate, poetic descriptions of marital love and desire. For instance, Song of Solomon 7:6-9 celebrates physical intimacy in vivid, joyful terms. Christians should feel free to explore and enjoy their sexuality in ways that strengthen their bond and express love, as long as both partners agree.

Jonah: I agree that Song of Solomon celebrates marital intimacy, but it’s clear that such acts should remain within the boundaries of purity. For example, oral sex or other non-traditional acts could lead couples to indulge in lustful behaviour rather than pure marital love. Philippians 4:8 reminds us to focus on things that are “true, noble, right, pure, lovely, admirable.” Some acts are selfish and degrading, even if consensual.

Carl: But who decides what’s “degrading,” Jonah? Isn’t that subjective? If both partners in a marriage find joy, connection, and mutual satisfaction in a specific act, how can it be wrong? 1 Corinthians 7:3-5 emphasises the mutuality of sexual relationships: “The husband should fulfil his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband.” It’s about giving and receiving pleasure, not rigid rules.

Jonah: That passage is about meeting each other’s needs, not indulging in sinful desires. Acts that mimic immoral behaviour, such as pornography or practices rooted in lust, go against the spirit of Christian love. Jesus warned in Matthew 5:28, “But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.” Even within marriage, we must guard our hearts against lust.

Carl: Jonah, there’s a difference between lust and healthy sexual desire. Lust is selfish and objectifying, while marital intimacy is about connection and love. The Bible doesn’t explicitly condemn specific acts like oral sex or other forms of intimacy. Instead, it focuses on the principles of love, consent, and mutual respect. If both spouses feel loved and respected, isn’t that honouring God?

Jonah: You’re walking a dangerous line, Carl. When you say the Bible doesn’t “explicitly condemn” something, you open the door to subjective interpretations. Ephesians 5:3 warns, “But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people.” Christians must err on the side of caution and avoid acts that might lead to impurity.

Carl: But Jonah, Ephesians 5:3 refers to immorality outside the context of a loving, committed relationship. Within marriage, Christians have freedom. Paul reminds us in Galatians 5:13, “You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.” Exploring and enjoying each other in marriage can be an expression of that freedom, as long as it’s rooted in love and service.

Jonah: Freedom in Christ doesn’t mean anything goes. We are called to live holy lives, and that includes how we conduct ourselves in the bedroom. Acts that mimic worldly behaviour or focus solely on physical gratification are dangerous. Holiness should always guide our choices.

Carl: Holiness is important, but so is intimacy. Let’s not forget that sex is a deeply personal and sacred act between two people. As Romans 14:22-23 says, “Blessed is the one who does not condemn himself by what he approves. But whoever has doubts is condemned if they eat, because their eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.” If a couple feels peace in their choices, free of guilt, isn’t that between them and God?

Jonah: I hear you, Carl, but Christians should aim for God’s standards, not their own feelings. Jeremiah 17:9 warns, “The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it?” We need Scripture, not personal peace, to guide us. And Scripture calls us to purity and self-control in all things, even in marriage.

Carl: And I’d argue that purity and self-control can look different in the context of a loving marriage. The focus should be on love, mutuality, and connection, not guilt or fear. Let’s not impose unnecessary restrictions that can harm intimacy and create shame in something God intended to be beautiful and joyful.

Our faith calls us to continuously seek wisdom and understanding. It’s vital for us, as Christians, to engage in these dialogues, always aiming to reflect God’s love and wisdom in our lives and the lives of those around us.

Jonah: As Christians, we are called to be set apart from the world. Paul reminds us in 2 Corinthians 6:17, “Therefore, come out from them and be separate, says the Lord. Touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you.” Supporting businesses that promote values contrary to Scripture is akin to aligning ourselves with those values. For example, if a store openly endorses practices like greed or immorality, we shouldn’t shop there.

Carl: I think we have to be cautious about how far we take that. In Matthew 9:10-13, Jesus dined with tax collectors and sinners. He didn’t separate Himself entirely from the world; instead, He brought His light to dark places. Christians can shop wherever, provided we maintain our integrity and witness. It’s not where we shop but how we live that matters.

Jonah: But by giving our money to businesses that oppose biblical values, we’re directly supporting their agenda. Ephesians 5:11 says, “Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.” If a store funds causes that oppose Christian teachings—such as abortion or the destruction of family values—we should “have nothing to do with them.”

Carl: True, but we live in a fallen world. If we scrutinise every business to ensure they meet Christian standards, we’d never shop anywhere. Even in Jesus’ time, the Roman Empire used taxes to fund oppressive systems, but He still said, “Give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s” (Matthew 22:21). It’s about balancing participation in society with our faith.

Jonah: It’s not about withdrawing entirely. It’s about making a stand. In Daniel 1, Daniel and his friends refused the king’s food and wine because they were determined not to defile themselves. Similarly, Christians should refuse to support businesses that are blatantly unbiblical. It’s a way to live out our faith and show that we are different.

Carl: Daniel’s refusal was based on direct obedience to God’s law, but there’s no commandment about where Christians can shop. Instead, we’re called to love God and love our neighbour (Matthew 22:37-39). Perhaps we can shop responsibly and use our spending to support good causes, but judging others for where they shop can lead to legalism, which Jesus criticised in the Pharisees.

Jonah: It’s not about judging others; it’s about being faithful. Romans 12:2 tells us, “Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.” Choosing not to shop at places that contradict our faith is one way to live that out.

Carl: I agree we shouldn’t conform to the world, but transformation starts in the heart, not in shopping habits. Colossians 3:17 says, “And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him.” Let’s focus more on glorifying God in how we treat others and less on where we spend money.

Jonah: What about Christian who keep spending more on designer, branded goods instead of non-branded items that do the same thing. I think this ties directly into the issue of stewardship. As Christians, we are called to use God’s resources wisely. Proverbs 21:20 says, “The wise store up choice food and olive oil, but fools gulp theirs down.” Often, branded goods come with inflated prices simply for the label. That money could be better used for God’s work—supporting missions, helping the needy, or giving to the church.

Carl: Stewardship is important, Jonah, but it’s not just about spending the least amount of money. 1 Timothy 6:17 reminds us, “Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God.” Whether it’s branded or non-branded, the key is where our heart lies. If buying a branded item ensures better quality or longevity, it could also be a wise investment.

Jonah: But don’t you think branded goods encourage vanity and materialism? 1 John 2:16 warns against “the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life.” People often buy brands to flaunt status, which directly conflicts with the humility Christians are called to embody. Choosing modest, non-branded goods helps us resist the temptation to glorify ourselves rather than God.

Carl: I don’t disagree that pride can be a pitfall, but let’s not generalise motives. Not everyone buys branded goods for status. Ecclesiastes 9:10 says, “Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might.” If someone buys branded items because they align with their values—like supporting ethical labor or quality craftsmanship—that’s a valid choice. What matters is intentionality, not the label.

Jonah: That’s fair, but branded items often come with the baggage of consumer culture. Companies can exploit workers, harm the environment, or encourage idolatry of material things. As Christians, shouldn’t we avoid participating in such systems? Micah 6:8 tells us to “act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.” Non-branded goods can often be simpler and less complicit in these issues.

Carl: I agree that justice and mercy should guide us, but non-branded goods aren’t always better. Some are produced unethically or are of poor quality, leading to wastefulness—a failure in stewardship. Instead of focusing solely on brand or no-brand, Christians should research where their money is going. Supporting brands that prioritise fair trade, sustainability, and ethical practices aligns with biblical values of justice and care for creation (Genesis 2:15).

Jonah: True, but this can quickly become over-complicated. The Bible calls us to simplicity: Matthew 6:19-21 warns, “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy.” Non-branded goods usually reflect a simpler lifestyle, which is less likely to lead to storing up earthly treasures. The less we focus on brands, the more we can focus on God.

Carl: Simplicity is important, but it’s not the same for everyone. The key is the heart behind the purchase. Romans 14:13 says, “Make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in the way of a brother or sister.” If someone buys branded goods in a way that honours God—whether through quality, ethics, or stewardship—we should respect their choice. The gospel frees us to make decisions prayerfully, not under legalistic rules.

Our faith calls us to continuously seek wisdom and understanding. It’s vital for us, as Christians, to engage in these dialogues, always aiming to reflect God’s love and wisdom in our lives and the lives of those around us.

Jonah: I believe it’s unchristian for anyone, especially a believer, to be a billionaire. Jesus himself said, “You cannot serve both God and money” (Matthew 6:24). Wealth can easily become an idol, pulling us away from God. The rich man in Mark 10:25 was told, “It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.” Doesn’t that imply extreme wealth is inherently dangerous?

Carl: I think that perspective overly simplistic. Money itself isn’t evil; it’s the love of money that is the root of all evil, as Paul writes in 1 Timothy 6:10. A Christian billionaire can use their wealth for tremendous good—feeding the hungry, funding missions, and addressing global issues. Look at Joseph of Arimathea, a wealthy man who provided Jesus’ tomb (Matthew 27:57-60). Wealth doesn’t disqualify someone from being faithful.

Jonah: But it’s not just about how wealth is used; it’s about how it’s acquired. James 5:1-6 warns rich people about hoarding wealth and exploiting workers. Most billionaires gain their fortune through systemic inequalities. By participating in these systems, aren’t they complicit in the very injustices the Bible condemns?

Carl: That’s a fair point, but wealth isn’t always gained unjustly. Proverbs 13:22 says, “A good person leaves an inheritance for their children’s children.” God can bless hard work and wise stewardship. Moreover, billionaires who operate ethically and give generously can reflect Christ’s call to love and serve others. Look at Zacchaeus in Luke 19:8—he was wealthy, yet when he repented, he used his wealth to restore and help others. His transformation was celebrated, not condemned.

Jonah: Even so, Jesus emphasised living simply and prioritising the kingdom of God. He told the rich young ruler to sell everything and give to the poor (Luke 18:22). While Zacchaeus gave away half his wealth, he didn’t remain a billionaire. Extreme wealth creates inequality and contradicts Jesus’ teachings on humility and reliance on God.

Carl: But Jesus didn’t condemn wealth outright; he condemned its misuse. In Acts 4:34-35, the early church distributed wealth so no one was in need, which suggests that those with means supported others. Imagine if a billionaire followed that model, giving away their wealth to uplift the poor. Isn’t that an example of God’s grace working through human resources?

Jonah: But how many billionaires actually live like that? The pursuit of wealth often blinds people to their spiritual needs and fosters greed. Psalm 37:16 says, “Better the little that the righteous have than the wealth of many wicked.” Christians should aim for contentment, not excess. Billionaires hoard resources that could be used to alleviate suffering now.

Carl: Jonah, I agree that contentment is vital. Still, what if a billionaire sees their wealth as a stewardship from God? If they embrace generosity like in 2 Corinthians 9:7—“God loves a cheerful giver”—and actively seek to transform lives, can’t they glorify God through their wealth? Isn’t it more about their heart and actions than the number in their bank account?

Jonah: Perhaps, but the risks of wealth corrupting the soul are too great. Jesus called his followers to deny themselves and take up their cross (Matthew 16:24). Being a billionaire seems antithetical to that call. Can you truly follow Christ while holding onto such abundance in a world full of need?

Carl: Jonah, I respect your passion, but I believe the heart of the matter lies in how wealth is managed, not merely its existence. If a billionaire lives out Micah 6:8—acting justly, loving mercy, and walking humbly with God—then their wealth becomes a tool for God’s kingdom, not a hindrance. It’s about being faithful stewards of whatever God has entrusted to us.

Our faith calls us to continuously seek wisdom and understanding. It’s vital for us, as Christians, to engage in these dialogues, always aiming to reflect God’s love and wisdom in our lives and the lives of those around us.